Goby

I am not a massive follower of WAFL but I do go to the local club a bit to watch a game and if I am driving past and see a non-senior game I will drop in also.

The club isn’t one I traditionally support but I just like to watch a game of footy.

Week in week out there isn’t many people there.  There’s the die-hards, a few families and that’s about it.

I can’t say I have been to every club to watch games so it might be different.  

I don’t find there is much there to attract families and other people apart from the die-hards.  People will probably say football should be enough but the AFL has the market on that one.  I just cannot understand why the clubs aren’t looking at different avenues to get people to the game.  You just don’t want the bloke to come along you want his family as well. You just don’t want to certain types of demographics you want the whole community and surrounds interested.  

But there is nothing there for the whole family, unless the whole family loves football.  They need to have other things going on that can get people in the door.

A range of decent food and good coffee would help. Why not have community stalls in there selling their stuff or advertising their organisations. Activities for kids.

There would be a million and one ideas you could put on the table.

Make it a little more vibrant, for people who probably will get bored watching a whole football game but would like a bit of a family outing.  

People are also more sophisticated and have higher expectations than 20 years ago. 

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Purple Heart
Even if a WAFL club went all out to market itself and provide all sorts of additional entertainment, it still has to compete with everything else on offer during footy season.

It's a sad fact that going to a Dockers home game, then watching it again afterwards, and keeping up with all the other games televised on Fox Sports, just doesn't leave much time or interest for the WAFL games.

With the AFL alignment teams in WA though, I think Peel Thunder games attracted reasonable crowds last season. I don't know about the Eagle's alignment team, but the attraction of a high number of Docker players in the team would have boosted crowd numbers. Even so, the crowd numbers were more than likely less than the club would have wanted.

There's just no easy answer to this one.
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Goby
You have to really like footy to go to WAFL game. Really who wants to be around booming voices, aggressive people and an set up that reminds the outsider that your not welcome in the areas members hang in. To be honest. 

When I go I find a space with nobody in it. There's no way I would invite any non footy friends. Even footy friends who are blokes don't want to go. 

I do think they can market themselves better but as long as there is the perception from the outside that WAFL is just for die-hards then they aren't going to get different people going. People who just like community and like watching sport with their family and friends without feeling alienated. Other sports do it really well and are vibrant and obviously make an effort to be inclusive. 

WAFL is tired and nothing has changed since I have been going since the 70s, apart from the fact there's less people. 

I don't think the members want the WAFL to change. I think they have their place there and they don't want move over for anyone else.  That's fine if that is how the clubs want to project themselves as but it's not serving them well is it. 




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anchorman
Yep the WAFL is tired and almost a thing of the past,but it is a concept that we can,t afford to lose. It is thebetter spent on the second tier ofblood of the AFL.Imagine eight clubs disappearing and the juniors
Clubs having to foot the bill to help kids bring out their skills.
The AFL needs to stand up and support all second tier competitions,all are during.The SANFL and VFL as well.
Also time the WAFC stood up and let the purse strings loose and gave support to the home of where a load of AFL players come from.It is easy to pan the quality of the local competition, but until the commission pull their fingers out,the competition will die a slow and painful death.It close to That now.It has one foot in the grave already.
It needs to be saved,two entities can do that,the WAFC and the AFL.It is a Shame that the AFL think more of Setting up a women's competition than saving grass roots football.The money wasted on the AwFL would have been better on the real life line of the AFL.
When people have to pay to go to the women's comp,it will draw the same numbers as the WAFL.
We can't afford to just let the local comp die.

2x25=Seinor&Michael.

29 = 353.

Improver one,Taylin Duman.

Improver two, Brett Bewley.
Smokey, Tobe Watson.
 

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Uncle Wally
Yes it's been sad watching the demise of the WAFL since the Eagles were established and seeing them stuff the whole thing up.  Whilst I live only three blocks away from Bassendean Oval, I'm not a Swans fan (East Fremantle for the record).  However, Swan Districts played in a Grand Final a few years back, yet wandering around the streets of Bassendean in the week leading up the match, you would not have known it.  There were no shop windows, cafes or pubs  adorned with black and white, nor houses or cars.  Pre-Eagles days, Bassendean would have been rocking.  Even as a non-Swans man, I would have liked to have felt some sort of a buzz in my local neighbourhood during GF week.  Apart from abolishing our two local AFL clubs (which of course is never going to happen) I don't know what the answers are.

Remember when people queued up to pre-purchase GF tickets?
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Goby
I agree the AFL needs to stand up and help WAFL and Aman I agree with everything you have said. 

But also WAFL needs to help itself. 

And the reason Wally why there isn't any connect with Swans in Bassendean is that they don't bring the community in. They have the perfect small community to pitch to but they prefer to stick to the same old same. 

Community is the key to WAFL success. 


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anchorman
Goby the truth of the matter is that the Sack clubs don't have the money to help themselves.They are all struggling,all except Subi. The clubs have no money to promote the game,but that should be the responsibility of the commission and the WAFL.And as I said the AFL needs to step up andtake some responsibility for the demise of the competition.
I know a lot will critics my opinion on the women's league,but grass roots footy should be the AFLs role more so than timid competition.Will the women's league ever produce a player who will make it at AFL?The answer to that is no.But will the WAFL produce a player who will make the big time? Yes you get it will,big time. Stupidity and waste of money from the AFL.Maybe also the two local AFL clubs could help out more than they do.

2x25=Seinor&Michael.

29 = 353.

Improver one,Taylin Duman.

Improver two, Brett Bewley.
Smokey, Tobe Watson.
 

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Goby

I can’t form an argument that would change your mind about women’s football. 

However, they have produced players that are in the AFL now.  There’s a men’s league and there’s a woman’s league. That’s just a fact and not one some people like but a fact none the less.

WAFL has had a long history and chance to be successful which is the topic we are talking about.  So with all that history behind them why have they failed to be successful?

People can’t blame it all on the AFL introduction of WA AFL teams. I agree the impact they had in taking some of the market was considerable. But they never managed to adjust to it.  Why?

If you want the AFL to pay for WA development then get rid of all the WAFL teams and create new teams that purely focus on development.  Forget about getting people through the gates and let the AFL decide how it is run.  If you want development and a community sport that the WAFL runs, then don’t expect the AFL to prop it up totally.  In that case you need to get people in the gates and sponsors and that means WAFL needs to focus on how to achieve that.  

I’ve spoken to people who have worked for the WAFL who have told me stories about how they are run and the influence some of them have had on the WAFL and the impact. It seems to me they have done this to themselves. 

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Goby

the AFL already bleed the WAFL.The take the kids from WAFL to fill the 18 AFL sides.Have done since the Eagles came in.The VFL bleed the WAFL dry before the Eagles,now they bleed the Colts dry.And who pays for the Colts competition!!!!!The WAFL clubs and the WAFL.The AFL must take responsibility for the neglect of the WAFL.

2x25=Seinor&Michael.

29 = 353.

Improver one,Taylin Duman.

Improver two, Brett Bewley.
Smokey, Tobe Watson.
 

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Goby
If you want the AFL to cover the total cost of the WAFL then there will be no WAFL. It will be owned, run and dictated to by the AFL and they will not have it any other way. 

If you want development supplemented by AFL plus keep the WAFL tradition, that is a different story but only with WAFL playing a major part in it financially. 

That right there is the issue, because the WAFL and it's existing members cannot agree on their collective future, which has been their downfall over many years. 

But Aman nobody bloody goes to WAFL. Clubs need to exist past the point of development if you want to keep the tradition intact. The WAFL has failed in this and to engage with the communities around them. 

If everyone who had an opinion on the WAFL's existence actually purchased a membership and attended every game, then maybe, just maybe... that would a good start. It would mean growth in clubs and sponsorship.
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